Adoption story

[robinw]

galty said:

oldjay said:

There is one big difference though. If the owners of those shelter dogs were turning around and breeding/buying hundreds more with the full intention of dumping them before they reached the age of 5, I would be on their butts just as much as greyhound owners. We have laws that limit the number of dogs people can own to prevent this sort of thing from happening more than it already does. If the shelters were not there to take these animals (nor adopton groups to take greyhounds) I would hate to imagine what their fate may be.

Jay

A lot of thoses where dogs less than 5 years old.

The Puppies mill breeders when they cannot sell the pups either just smash there heads against rocks or dump them at a pound, a lot of thoses dogs where not even 5 months old let alone five years.

PETA makes a very good point, if animals where not kept as pets or working then there would be no abuse.

These where puppies been put down where do you think they came from.

Animals are abused because we own them, people like you seem to be selective in trying to stop the abuse.

i think the big difference is that greyhounds are bred to support an entire industry and ti make money for many layers of particupants, from the breeder to the bettor. if the do doesn't serve it's purpose, if he/she is lucky, it gets adopted. if not, well, it is back to the farm.

i believe that puppy mills should be shut down and that all dogs should be spayed and neutered...well, most dogs anyway. personally, i don't see the need for the breeding of pure breds at all when there are so many mixed breeds in need of homes. but that is just my opinion.

[oldjay]

And you don't think the puppy mill breeders have to answer to anyone? If it weren't for PETA, you might not know about any of this abuse. I doubt the breeders would claim they had the right to do whatever they want with their own property. I am not selective at all. I offer support to any effort to end this type of abuse. When they take these jerks to court, I have my pencil perched, phone in hand, ready to add my name to the list of those pushing for the toughest penalty.

I should also point out that shelter dogs are not all given up by their owners. Many of them are lost, stolen, or injured, who ended up there without their owners even knowing about it.

Many others are sick or old and while I would not personally choose to have my pet euthanized at a shelter, some people don't have the means for paying a vet to do it. I know, I know, they should not have a dog they can't affored to care for but at least in this case, they made the effort to get them to the right facility.

This is not the same as greyhounds being systematically destroyed by the people who paid to have them brought into this world in the first place. Especially when they keep doing it over and over again, knowing what will happen in five years. It's a whole different ball game. There should be a way to control it. An effort at the very least. The majority of the people are never going to accept it as is. They need to know it is not allowed. Not just a matter of choice that a good percentage are doing the right way. You will always have those bad apples screwing it up and the minute one gets the boot, the next one will take his place.

Jay

[jettcricket]

robinw said:

galty said:

A lot of thoses where dogs less than 5 years old.

The Puppies mill breeders when they cannot sell the pups either just smash there heads against rocks or dump them at a pound, a lot of thoses dogs where not even 5 months old let alone five years.

PETA makes a very good point, if animals where not kept as pets or working then there would be no abuse.

These where puppies been put down where do you think they came from.

Animals are abused because we own them, people like you seem to be selective in trying to stop the abuse.

i think the big difference is that greyhounds are bred to support an entire industry and ti make money for many layers of particupants, from the breeder to the bettor. if the do doesn't serve it's purpose, if he/she is lucky, it gets adopted. if not, well, it is back to the farm.

i believe that puppy mills should be shut down and that all dogs should be spayed and neutered...well, most dogs anyway. personally, i don't see the need for the breeding of pure breds at all when there are so many mixed breeds in need of homes. but that is just my opinion.

I agree with Robin. I wish they would make it law, unless you are a responsible breeder and even then. They have rescue sites for slmost any breed under the sun. I have been involved in feral cat rescue thru a program called TNR (Trap, Neuter, Release) from a local diner where I work. It took me 3 years to successfully catch them all, but I did it. That's why at one time I had 8 cats. I've also sponsored a pit bull by the name of Piglet from a Newark Shelter her in NJ for the past year that died this past summer. I cried for a dog that I never even met. I give monies to my local shelter and the North Shore Animal League, which is a no kill shelter. Your assuming that are only cause is greyhound rescue. Please don't assume. I'm sure most of us love all animals.....

[jettcricket]

jettcricket said:

robinw said:

i think the big difference is that greyhounds are bred to support an entire industry and ti make money for many layers of particupants, from the breeder to the bettor. if the do doesn't serve it's purpose, if he/she is lucky, it gets adopted. if not, well, it is back to the farm.

i believe that puppy mills should be shut down and that all dogs should be spayed and neutered...well, most dogs anyway. personally, i don't see the need for the breeding of pure breds at all when there are so many mixed breeds in need of homes. but that is just my opinion.

I agree with Robin. I wish they would make it law, unless you are a responsible breeder and even then. They have rescue sites for slmost any breed under the sun. I have been involved in feral cat rescue thru a program called TNR (Trap, Neuter, Release) from a local diner where I work. It took me 3 years to successfully catch them all, but I did it. That's why at one time I had 8 cats. I've also sponsored a pit bull by the name of Piglet from a Newark Shelter her in NJ for the past year that died this past summer. I cried for a dog that I never even met. I give monies to my local shelter and the North Shore Animal League, which is a no kill shelter. Your assuming that are only cause is greyhound rescue. Please don't assume. I'm sure most of us love all animals.....

...And how I could forget our sweet Moira. The first dog me and my DH owned. She was taken to a kill shelter by her owners at the age of 11. How unfair was that? Moira was a Belguim Shepard mix that we adopted. She was our first dog....she was only with us for 14 months, but she taught us unconditional love. We knew that we wanted to rescue/save a dog and that was the beginning of our greyhound obsession.

[galty]

jettcricket said:

robinw said:

i think the big difference is that greyhounds are bred to support an entire industry and ti make money for many layers of particupants, from the breeder to the bettor. if the do doesn't serve it's purpose, if he/she is lucky, it gets adopted. if not, well, it is back to the farm.

i believe that puppy mills should be shut down and that all dogs should be spayed and neutered...well, most dogs anyway. personally, i don't see the need for the breeding of pure breds at all when there are so many mixed breeds in need of homes. but that is just my opinion.

I agree with Robin. I wish they would make it law, unless you are a responsible breeder and even then. They have rescue sites for slmost any breed under the sun. I have been involved in feral cat rescue thru a program called TNR (Trap, Neuter, Release) from a local diner where I work. It took me 3 years to successfully catch them all, but I did it. That's why at one time I had 8 cats. I've also sponsored a pit bull by the name of Piglet from a Newark Shelter her in NJ for the past year that died this past summer. I cried for a dog that I never even met. I give monies to my local shelter and the North Shore Animal League, which is a no kill shelter. Your assuming that are only cause is greyhound rescue. Please don't assume. I'm sure most of us love all animals.....

Jett

Sorry for late reply must have missed it first time round

I was not assuming that you and other ARs cause is only Greyhound rescue.

Only the fact that you want Greyhound racing banned because of the so called abuse, I was just pointing PETA use the same point to have ALL pet ownership banned because pets can be abused by a few.