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Post by greyaspet on Feb 1, 2006 11:16:25 GMT -5
I just got an email from an adopter who sent a picture along with it. The dog is having some crate issues which I can deal with, it is the picture that sent me over the edge. This man is not married but has a girlfriend with two small children. In the picture the two small kids are IN THE CRATE with a very stressed out dog with the gate closed. I don't want to go off on him in fear of loosing whatever contact I do have but this is a major accident waiting to happen. Any ideas on how to tactfully handle this? Sheila
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Post by CampWhippet on Feb 1, 2006 13:02:29 GMT -5
Oh my.
I'd say something like: "Cute picture, but a dog's crate is his sanctuary, where the dog must be allowed to retreat for the outside world and feel safe and left alone. Afterall, it is the only place in the house the dog can truely call his own. This "space issue" goes back to the dogs' days on the track and is a very important part of the greyhound's life when it makes the transition to home life. The children shuold not enter not be permitted to put their hands in the crate when the dog is in there."
I'm sure others have written such letters and can share a better way - but that's my 2 cents.
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Post by peet on Feb 1, 2006 13:22:27 GMT -5
This is a serious situation that needs to be adressed asap. Just tell him you are worried and why. He is putting these kids in a situation that can go very wrong and that the crate must be a safe place for the dog where it can be alone. Be straight forward, otherwise they may think it isn't a real issue.
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Post by jettcricket on Feb 1, 2006 13:58:12 GMT -5
This is a serious situation that needs to be adressed asap. Just tell him you are worried and why. He is putting these kids in a situation that can go very wrong and that the crate must be a safe place for the dog where it can be alone. Be straight forward, otherwise they may think it isn't a real issue. Good Lord...I love how people listen when they are screened and thru the adoption process. That's a tragedy waiting to happen. People are so stupid sometimes. I agree with Peet...I wouldn't make light of it. I'd be on the horn asap.
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Post by kellygrl on Feb 1, 2006 14:43:56 GMT -5
I'm not sure that tact is required here! I cannot believe that idiot writes to you about the dog having crate issues and then proceeds to send that picture. That poor pup, and what a moron to put his children in harm's way.
Good luck, I'd be interested in hearing what he has to say for himself!
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Post by twogreys on Feb 1, 2006 21:39:44 GMT -5
OMG!!!! Call ASAP and explain the situation. You could offer a couple of books. The Dummies book, The other end of the leash, Childproofing your dog. They may help.
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Post by Jay on Feb 2, 2006 17:53:39 GMT -5
I would go over there right away to make sure those kids are never allowed in that crate again. If the owner cannot fully understand the risks he is taking, then the dog needs to go back with you immediately. Not to be melodramatioc but those children could be seriously injured, no matter what kind of dog it is. That alone is grounds to remove the dog from his possession and I'll bet it would stand up in any court of law.
Please keep us updated.
BTW, for some reason, I can't sign in.
oldjay
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Post by Trish on Feb 3, 2006 15:01:35 GMT -5
I agree, say something ASAP. They may think it's cute but a stressed dog can act out in ways we don't like. Explain that it's not only for the dogs comfort but the kids safety. As for tactful, that's not always my strong point in cases like this so you're on your there.
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Post by greyaspet on Feb 5, 2006 9:18:43 GMT -5
I talked to this adopter and explained that I have no problem at all with kids being crated as long as it is not with the dog, if he felt the need to crate his kids then they need their own crate. BTW don't know what it is like in any other state but in my state no adoption group regardless of the bred has the legal authority to remove a dog, we can try and convince and at times have offered money to get the dog back but only an ACO can legally remove a dog from a home. Sheila GPL NJ
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Post by peet on Feb 5, 2006 9:50:41 GMT -5
I talked to this adopter and explained that I have no problem at all with kids being crated as long as it is not with the dog, if he felt the need to crate his kids then they need their own crate. BTW don't know what it is like in any other state but in my state no adoption group regardless of the bred has the legal authority to remove a dog, we can try and convince and at times have offered money to get the dog back but only an ACO can legally remove a dog from a home. Sheila GPL NJ I love the way you worked this out :o Overhere, it is the same, even with a contract that states the group can take the dog back if needed, the law here sees these dogs as the adopters possesion. Only in case of abuse or neglect, we can get the dog out. But usually it is not needed to let it go that far and will a good talk get us the dog back.
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Post by CampWhippet on Feb 5, 2006 12:27:11 GMT -5
I am a big supporter of crating kids too!
Nicely put and I hope they understand.
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Post by Sighthound Fan on Feb 5, 2006 16:41:07 GMT -5
Lol. You diffinatly put a good spin on it there!
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Post by dvsgryhnd on Feb 5, 2006 21:29:22 GMT -5
BTW don't know what it is like in any other state but in my state no adoption group regardless of the bred has the legal authority to remove a dog, we can try and convince and at times have offered money to get the dog back but only an ACO can legally remove a dog from a home. Sheila GPL NJ I'm not sure if it was legal in WI, but twice I threatened to have the track and state officials step in to resolve an issue. One lady put an ad in the paper to sell her dogs that she adopted from the track. Quad-Cities adoption saw the ad and bought the dogs. When she found out it was an adoption group that bought the dogs she had the nerve to threaten them with a lawsuit. She called me and wanted me to help her get her dogs back. I told her no way and that the track was backing the group. I expained the track had lawyers sitting around waiting for something to do and that shut her up.
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Post by becki on Feb 17, 2006 0:07:17 GMT -5
I think the way you handled that with humor was admirable.
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Post by Billie on Feb 20, 2006 9:08:11 GMT -5
I talked to this adopter and explained that I have no problem at all with kids being crated as long as it is not with the dog, if he felt the need to crate his kids then they need their own crate.... Sheila GPL NJ That was a great way to address it! :o How did he respond?
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